When I hear stories about some of the folks around here, about how difficult it was for them to get in the park service, I just laugh because I just sent in an application and they called me to come in to work. It was pretty darn easy. Although that is pretty much the way it was with engineers. Engineers have more choices than people who are looking for recreation or forestry. Once I got into it, I found that it melded with my interests quite nicely. I'm kind of the idealistic sort of guy, so the whole national park concept appeals to me a lot. Preservation and conservation fits in nicely with my training and interest in public works. So it's worked out pretty well. Q How long did you stay in Colorado? AI stayed in Denver working for the Central Design Office. They do the design and construction work for the whole country. I was there for a couple of years and then a job opened up in Glacier for a park engineer. We had spent an extended vacation there and it was my favorite place in the world, so when a job opportunity opened I jumped on it and ended up spending 11 years in Glacier. Eventually, I decided I wanted to be a facility manager, so I started looking around for a job.